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FIONA752
#1 Posted : Wednesday, April 14, 2010 9:01:55 PM Quote
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Hi! I just had to start this thread about my House.
I have had R.A for 15 or 16 years now.
I have a long term partner but we do not live together - he has his own
flat.
I live in a fairly large Victorian Terrace House.
I moved here to do my degree in 1987 as a mature student of 30.
The children were 11 and 10 and the youngest lived in America with his Father.
While I was a student, I shared the house with other students as lodgers during
term time.
I graduated in 1990, the kids left home over the next few years and so now I
live here alone.
I REALLY LOVE MY HOUSE, BUT IT NEEDS SO MUCH ATTENTION.
Over the years the kids stored a lot of their things that they didn't need at my
place, as they moved flats, etc.
So my utility room and big main bedroom are full of their stuff.
The cellar is also full of stuff that belonged to my Great Aunt and Uncle which my
Mum and Gran sent to me when they emigrated to Spain!
Basically, the lounge is decorated and comfortable, looks nice, etc, but the
rest of it needs sorting out.
Structurally, it is sound enough, but the bath with shower over, has some kind of
weird leak that is staining the kitchen ceiling.
Luckily, it is a big kitchen and so the leak is nowhere near the table or cooker, etc.
I sleep in the middle bedroom and the sash cord window won't open and really should
be double glazed. I love fresh air and religiously open all windows that will open
every day, so since the end of last Summer have not been able to air the room
directly.
The Sash window in the Kitchen was "sticking" in the Summer and I managed to
injure my Spine trying to open it while my daughter was over for a chat one afternoon.
(I am having a second M.R.I scan on it on Friday 16th April as I am still on painkillers
for it.)
Because of the R.A and the Spine problems I know that I will not be able to lift stuff
to sort it out regarding what to get rid of and what to keep, etc.
The three kids have offered to help but they are notoriously unreliable.
I have no money to pay for vans to take the stuff to the dump or to do repairs
and I am beginning to feel at my wits end as to how to tackle this place.
Are their any resources available for home owners who are disabled?
Some of the problem is probably Psychological - to the extent that I have never
been able to throw away my shoes that I used to wear before the R.A.
I know that I should be in the very large big Bedroom at the front of the house,
but it used to be my daughters room and I have many memories of her adolescent
temper tantrums echoing from there!
I think my partner needs a good talking to as he could be a lot more help with this too.
Anyone got any advice please?
P.S I have not been able to throw away my clothes that I used to wear before the R.A
either.
So now my current clothes hang on hangers outside the wardrobe!
I know that this is because on an emotional level these clothes and shoes represent the
"Healthy" me prior to the R.A.
Replies welcome.
FionaHuh
Maria_R
#2 Posted : Wednesday, April 14, 2010 10:34:40 PM Quote
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Hi Fiona

Sorry to hear that you are having such a tough time. I know what you mean about hanging onto your pre RA shoes and clothes. I've got loads of my favourite pointed shoes, including 3 pairs I've hardly worn, boots and shoes which are brand new. It really upsets me to think I'll never wear them again. I've got a lovely pair of shoes I bought in Italy- low heels so I can just about still wear them, although my big toes are starting to protest! i used to live in my 60's style Beatle boots but sadly not any more.

I can't answer your question about resources- no doubt some one else will be able to. It' s worth enquiring though, as there may well be something out there. Or there may be some charity who might be willing to take stuff off your hands? Have you any friends/ neighbours who could help out? Local church?

I don't wish to be bossy or presume to tell you what to do, but I would hope that your kids will help- maybe time to get tough with them, as well as your partner!

take care- I hope you can get some help and support

Love
Maria x
amanda_lewin
#3 Posted : Wednesday, April 14, 2010 10:38:26 PM Quote
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Can I join the 'let's rant about old houses club'?? (LOL)

We live in a 1660s (yes what was I thinking!) stone house and it needs SO much renovation it is a joke!

Yes, there is some sort of allowance one can get if registered disabled, we keep meaning to look into this too! I think it is to do with cavity wall insulation or some sort of structural work as my Godmother (who is disabled) has had this. We weren't able to have this Mark is telling me...

I have swung to and fro about our house because deep deep down I am still in love with it! Mark and I always dreamt of an old house, as we love the old eras so much, and when this came on the market we jumped at the chance as it was only affordable because of the HUGE amount of work....

If I am honest, and it hurts to admit, these old houses which need much work, aren't equipped for RA, although I can't seem to give in to it! I guess you have to try and fix what is essential first, that's what we do, and carry on trying to make life easier in such an old place.

Our main problems to sort immediately are; a new window in our bedroom as (shamefully) ours has broken and we only have the secondary glazing there!! But it has to be bespoke and wood as the house is grade II listed! And also a new back door which has to be as strong and hard as a front door as this is what it;s used for. It doesn't open!!!! (we use the conservatory door to enter!) and is so drafty it may as well not be there!

Then we have heating problems, ie no substantial heating in the kitchen (of all places!) and all the radiators need re-balancing and bleeding and replacing- for over 1K!

Oh the list is endless......but isn't it charming to live in a quirky, old house with all it's history and character?!

Love,

Amanda

joeyvt
#4 Posted : Thursday, April 15, 2010 3:23:00 PM Quote
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Hi Fiona,

Sounds like you have a really lovely house and I'm sure you're desperate to have it the way you'd like it. On a much much smaller scale, I had a similar problem but I have to say that my partner (also not living with me) has been outstanding and has helped me immeasurably in clearing out spaces one by one. I found it the only way I could tackle the huge clutter problem the children and I had developed. Andy and I focused on one room or area at a time and on good days I got stuck in and helped; on bad days, I was supervisor.

I do think maybe your partner could be called upon to help as well as the children. If it's their stuff you're accomodating, I think it's only fair they help out too. How about hiring a skip? I know it's a bit expensive (around £120 here in Bristol) but there usually isn't a time constraint so you can tackle the worst of it over a period of time that suits you. But definitely rope in the others to help!

Good luck with it!

Joanna
JulieM
#5 Posted : Thursday, April 15, 2010 4:19:14 PM Quote
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Fiona, have you heard of Catholoic Housing at all? they will gratefully accept any items of furniture for people who don't have much and will come and collect it free?
Also Charity shops have a van collection service.
YES I'VE CHANGED, PAIN DOES THAT TO PEOPLE.
FIONA752
#6 Posted : Thursday, April 15, 2010 8:12:20 PM Quote
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Hello again!
Thank you for the really thoughtful replies.
Today, I decided not to worry about the "House out of control",
because I have the second M.R.I of my Spine tomorrow in Exeter.
BUT the house must be tackled swiftly because I waste mental
energy worrying over it!
Maria, I felt so relieved to know that I am not the only one to
not throw out my pre R.A shoes!
Very occasionally, I approach the shoes and try them on and of
course they hurt my feet and I will never be able to walk in them
again. (By the way, partly, this is due to Bunions as well as R.A.)
But I usually start to feel tearful because I remember how much I loved
long walks in the country and then I stuff them back into the wardrobe.
I just tell myself to "stop it!" and leave the room.
It really feels as though I am in mourning for my younger, fitter self.
(I am 53 now, and developed R.A at 38.)
Amanda, I think your house sounds amazing - whether it needs renovation or not.
I just love older houses too!
Joanna - I definately have decluttering issues.
I feel that I could easily help someone else to declutter their home, so I can
only attribute strong emotional memories to my own inability to go and sort
through my things in the big bedroom. Again they are all pre R.A items.
Scarves, a few items of jewellery - not expensive but remembered.
My yougest son did come over last year and sort through his things that were
upstairs and throw out what he didn't want and take what he still needed with him to
his flat. (But oh, the amount of bikes he has in my utility room!)
Joanna, I think I would definately neeed a skip. I even have an electric cooker that belongs
to my eldest son in the utility room. I had his fridge too, till I got rid of it!
Julie, my kids took so much of the furniture with them when they moved into flats that I will
have to find replacement furniture for the rooms!
Maybe I should describe the room I am sitting in at the moment to give you all an idea of
what "Kelly Castle" acually looks like. (It really is like the "Country House Rescue" T.V programme,
except, of course it is a Victorian Terrace House! It houses many things in the cellar that came
from different generations of my Cornish family. Even my Great Great Aunt Polly's Parasol and horn rimmed spectacles!)
I am sitting at my very nice computer which has a proper computer table and chair.
This room is the warmest room in the house with a lovely open fireplace.
It is meant to be the Study.
But it has a double bed in it in case anyone stays. My sons wardrobe is in here as well as
a pine Welsh dresser and a marble toppped pine cupboard that goes with the dresser.
They really should be in a dining room and were, in a previous house of mine when the
children were all little.
In fact the eldest two carved their initials into the Dresser when they were small!
Luckily, these items fit into the alcoves on either side of the fireplace. But I would not have
chosen them for this house.
Part of the hotch potch nature of the remaining furniture is that I have lived in three houses.
(Two of which were Cottages in Cornwall where I am from originally.)
I have found that I feel better when I am away on holiday with few possesions of my own
around me.
I think all this "stuff" has too many memories attached to it all and mainly they are associated
with my life years ago and not my life now.
None of my kids own a house - they all rent so I can't really ask them if they would like any of it.
But I shan't give up and will try to rally round some concerted help to sort this place out.
It could be so nice but just isn't at the moment.
Does anyone else find themselves almost "haunted" by out of date possesions?
Best wishes,
FionaRollEyes





monty
#7 Posted : Friday, April 16, 2010 12:40:27 AM Quote
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Dear Fiona,

No-one can tell you what to do, but I can tell you what I have done and how it has affected my life.

Like you, I have had 'Arthur' for over 16 years and I found myself a widow, living in a 3-bedroomed house after the children had flown the nest. It is normally inevitable that the RA progresses slowly and about 6 years ago, I came to the conclusion that I did not want to see the house I loved slowly disintegrating around my ears as my condition worsened.

I had a roof full of other people's belongings. I could not get into the roof, so I invited all the 'owners' of said belongings, to lunch one Sunday with the sole intention of them sorting things out and taking home what they wanted. They had a lovely day reminiscing about the things they kept finding and I had a lovely day with them. They put everything they wanted into their cars and then I asked them to bring everything else down and place into the garage. Result - 1 empty roof space.

I telephoned several charity shops and the 'Mind' charity sent a van and took the lot! Easy peasy.

Then I went looking at bungalows. I found a lovely 2 bedroomed bungalow on the same estate about half a mile away from my house. It needed a lot doing to it to cater for a disabled person, but I lived in my caravan in the garden whilst it was being done (about 2 months). I hasten to say that it was summer, so it was quite pleasant and I was on site to advise (or kick builder's backsides !) I'm not saying you have to move, but you would live more comfortably if you could actually see your rooms properly.

You live totally differently when you are on your own. All those big pans, dishes etc., are obsolete - as well as being unable to pick them up!

So I tackled one room at a time. The first was the kitchen. I put all the things that I had not used for the last 3 years into the garage. Again, I called the children round and invited them to take what they wanted.
Result - 1 tidy kitchen and I could see what was in the cupboards. It was very easy to pack when I did finally move.

Clothes and shoes. Trust me - you probably won't wear these things again. I cleared my wardrobes and drawers and only put back what I had worn within the last 5 years. The rest I put into the numerous charity bags that are put through my door. I did it slowly and over a few weeks, I had a tidy bedroom. I now have a rule that for every piece of clothing that comes into the house, one goes out! Result - tidy wardrobes and drawers and I was wearing almost all the things I had kept. Also, I didn't have to lug the bags to the charity shops. They picked them up!

Think small. 1 room and 1 cupboard at a time. I have to say it is very LIBERATING, even though it is sad to say goodbye to some of your 'possessions'.

Think also - what if your house burnt down (please God it never does) but you would be left with nothing. At least this way you have a chance to start and control the de-cluttering.

Your children all have their own homes now (rented or not) so maybe now is the time they should take responsibility for their own belongings.

As I said, the whole process, while very sad, was also liberating. No-one can take your memories away from you - these possessions are only 'things'. My home now works for me and I am not held back by my husband's or children's belongings. I can't tell you how wonderful it is to be able to plug the hoover in the hall and do the whole bungalow in about 10 minutes! I don't get sidetracked by having to move piles of 'stuff' from one place to another.

You said you could be ruthless with your friends' clearing out. Why not ask one of them to help you? You could get a bottle of wine and make an afternoon of it. Small steps though. Don't think of the whole picture. Don't try to do it all it once. It took me 6 months!

I can't tell you whether you can get help for renovations for your house, but I am sure other people will tell you on here if they know.

I do hope this helps you get things into perspective. I felt exactly like you at one time. The time to do it is when you are feeling relatively well. I would not have been able to do it when I was ill - it would have made me worse. So pick a 'good' day, week, or month and just choose a room and empty a cupboard. Go-on, see what it feels like.

Good luck and warmest wishes, Ann

"I cannot do everything. I accept that. Not being able to do everything is no excuse for doing nothing." ~ Helen Keller
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#8 Posted : Friday, April 16, 2010 7:33:42 AM Quote
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Hi all

I am loving this thread.Love It has inspired me to try harder.
I too, have problems with keeping everything decluttered.
I wish my family could read it and realise that THEY NEED TO HELP TOO!
When I first was really bad they were very helpful but as the drugs have begun to work and I'm improving - they have assumed that all is back to normal.
It's very hard to get them to understand without constantly explaining what the problems are and sounding like a real moaner!!!!!
jeanb
#9 Posted : Friday, April 16, 2010 11:33:02 AM Quote
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Oh Ann - I love your post!

We too have a smaller, modern house now. Of course, when we married, it was a huge wrench for both of us to part with our old homes! Steve had almost an acre of garden and we had a rambling place. BUT we couldn't have managed either of them now.

We have de-cluttered everything and I know that there is nothing I can't wear or can't use because they have all gone. It was a HUGE sadness at times, getting rid of the old - especially shoes, handbags and wonderful clothes. but I knew (deep down inside) I'd NEVER squeeze into again.

Like you, I always chuck something out when we buy new so the clutter never builds up!

Having said that, we are all so different, and living my way wouldn't suit everyone. I think it all depends on your own personality!

Love Jeanxxxx
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Hi,

I have had to declutter so I could move around the place however I decided to put a lot of the stuff on ebay. Vintage clothing, shoes, bags etc sell really well and it would help pay for your repairs. I put on stuff I couldn't bear to part with and believe me getting money for it makes the parting with it easier. It is amazing what sells. Give it a try. It is fun to watch your stuff selling. I have sent stuff to Australia, Romania, America and all over the UK.

I am still selling now.

JayneThumpUp
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#11 Posted : Friday, April 16, 2010 1:22:58 PM Quote
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Fiona

I am so sorry you are having to worry about your house and it's contents when you obviously have more important things on your mind - like your health!

I can only suggest that you set a deadline for clearing out your house. Order the skip, tell your children that you are going to have a massive clear out and if they do not come over on the date you have the skip, everything will be thrown or taken away. I am sure they will be with you like a shot on the nominated day wondering what else they can "borrow" from you or wondering where such and such is. You are going to have to be really ruthless. As for manpower, get those children, partner, neighbours involved. Beg if necessary and make it an event maybe laying on food etc. I am sure people will pop out the woodwork. If you try and make it a fun thing rather than a tedious task you may have some success.

I think your local council should be able to take away any electrical equipment for you cookers etc as they are classified as hazardous waste.

I hope your back scan goes well and that you sort something out soon.

Take care

Jackie
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#12 Posted : Friday, April 16, 2010 3:41:32 PM Quote
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HI Fiona

You've been given some good advice, I was going to suggest asking friends and having a clearing out party!

It is so hard to get rid of items that have memories attached to them, but you have to be a bit ruthless, and think of your future health as well as not being able to move for stuff scattered around. Like you, I've been hanging onto some high heels as I can't bear to part with them, but know they should go to the charity shop.

As Ann says, do a little at a time, rather than exhausting yourself.

Lyn
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#13 Posted : Friday, April 16, 2010 11:38:15 PM Quote
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Oh Fiona, I wanted to say what Ann has said so well to you, and I forgot...BUT getting rid of things and freeing yourself from all the items and belongings you never use is the BEST feeling in the world, it is extremely liberating and peaceful.

I have to say i used to hoard everything but once we began to have children I found all I really needed were the bare essentials and unlike some who buy everything in their sight for a baby, I threw everything in my sight out! When Ben was born we had this beautiful (well, it was to us!) flat with scarce furniture (all second hand from my parents!) and nothing else!


Nowadays I am often spotted with a black bin bag and I fill them up, or the children do, and we give things away to charity, local hospitals, friends...it is very good for the children (being so young) to see how we can help others by these acts and also, like I keep harping on about, very freeing!

Good luck, I'll be praying for your de-cluttering rave! LOLOL

Love,

Amanda
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Lovely post, Amandaxxxx
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#15 Posted : Sunday, April 18, 2010 5:20:43 PM Quote
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Aw thank you Jean! I must say I noticed your 'extreme ironing' under your messages and Mark wants to know how much to teach me to iron...the cheek!!!!!!!!!!!

Love, A
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I'll bring the boards down to Leicester!!!!!
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#17 Posted : Sunday, April 18, 2010 5:51:13 PM Quote
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LOL LOL LOL It's getting into the "extreme" position that concerns me, top of a mountain!! Scared
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Gosh, I have to admit I have been hoarding since I was 14 yrs old and I am now 50. I still have shoes from my teens, however, can't wear them! I am also guilty of clogging up my poor Ma's garage with not only my stuff, but Saskia's too, and my sibling have also got stuff their stuff there too. I know the time will come when my Ma will put her foot down and will say enough is enough, and will be forced to part with my old treasured belongings as it wont fit into our 2 bedroom flat, which is already looking cluttered.

Ann, I wish I had your courage to tackle my clutter, I'm a great procrastinator and think I would have to go into therapy before I tackle the big sort out. LOL.

Anthea, I am sure that when the time feels right and when you feel ready, you'll be able to take the task in hand.

love,

Barbara
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